A New Dawn: Upcoming Changes To Flowtown

by Ethan Bloch on Nov 24, 2010
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As you know, Flowtown is at the forefront of social marketing, and we pride ourselves on our ability to help so many small businesses (now over 26,000 of you) get ramped up and successful on social media.

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Recently, we’ve been hard at work building the next generation of Flowtown and starting next week we’ll be rolling-out, testing and iterating on a slew of new features and applications. Some of you have already started helping us test a few of these- thank you!

While we are excited about making you an ever better social marketer with our upcoming features, we feel it is important to let you know that come January 1, 2011, we’ll no longer offer the service of turning an email address into social network user IDs (a.k.a. “social discovery”).

This is a difficult decision for us, but a necessary one given that providing this service was becoming a distraction from our core mission.

We want to assure you that even without the traditional social discovery service we will continue to deliver on the promise of providing deep social analysis and simple social marketing tools. Additionally I think you’ll be very happy when you see the kinds of results that our upcoming features deliver.

To all our customers, users and partners, thank you so much for supporting us thus far! If you like what we’ve done in the past, you’ll love what we’re doing in the future. A detailed Q&A on our upcoming changes are below. Feel free to give us a ring (1-800-733-2414) or send us an email (help(at)flowtown.com) if you have any additional questions.

- The Flowtown Team

Update: I’m doing Q&A over on Formspring, come ask me anything about our upcoming changes: http://www.formspring.me/ebloch


Q&A: What’s Changing On January 1, 2011

Q: What’s changing on January 1st?
A: The functionally that takes an email address and discovers a persons social network information and User ID (a.k.a. “Social Discovery”) will no longer be available in Flowtown.

Q: How does this affect the MailChimp, iContact, Constant Contact and Campaign Monitor integrations?
A: When processing a third-party import we will no longer push a a contact’s demographic and socialgraphic information back into your list hosted by your email service provider.

Q: How does this affect the BatchBook integration?
A: You will no longer be able to connect your BatchBook account to Flowtown and perform the one-click social network discovery.

Q: How does this affect the Wufoo, Formstack and Unbounce integrations?
A: We will no longer be able to notify you if someone with a particular Klout score submits your webform or landing page.

Q: How does this affect the SnapABug integration?
A: We will no longer be able to show you socialgraphic insights about your website visitor when you’re chatting with them.

Q: How does this affect the SalesForce integration?
A: We will no longer be able to notify you if someone with a particular Klout score becomes a lead. Additionally we won’t be able to populate demographic and socialgraphic fields within SalesForce.

Q: How does this affect your Discovery API?
A: When you query our discovery API your contact will still get imported into your Flowtown account, but you will no longer receive a response containing social networking information of that contact.

Update: I’m doing Q&A over on Formspring, come ask me anything about our upcoming changes: http://www.formspring.me/ebloch

(Photo credit: flickr/NotForSale)

  • http://www.HubSpot.com Dharmesh Shah

    Kudos to you guys for handling this so well and so transparently.

    Most startups in your situation make the mistake of side-stepping the tricky bits of an announcement like this.

  • http://www.morphealth.com/ jennifer nisa sanjaya

    very nice sharing. honestly, since I entered this page I’ve started to feel comfortable air :D

  • Graphix3

    I mean, this is now discouraging me from signing up. The whole point of my interest was social discovery. . . . . What will be the percentage of people who will stop using your software?

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    Thanks Dharmesh!

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    “We’ve spent a lot of time talking with many of customers over the past two weeks and we’re really lucky to have so many amazing people who believe in our vision and what we’re trying to solve.

    I think the people who really feel that Social Marketing is hard and should be way simpler are going to continue to be a Flowtown user and customer.”

  • http://manamica.com Mana

    I was just about to sign up when I saw this. I appreciate the honesty, this is fantastic customer service. But what WILL Flowtown offer then? I am totally serious. I’m having a hard time understanding what the service is and will be from the home page and after reading this I’m even more confused. I’d love to know more and give it a chance. Thanks!

  • http://twitter.com/lauramdavies Laura Davies

    That’s a real pity. It’s a fantastic feature and the reason I heard of you in the first place. Are you aware of any other, similiar services out there that you could point us to?

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    Thank you Laura. I’d suggest taking a look at PeekYou.com

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    Hi Mana,

    We’re passionate about making social marketing simple for the SMB. There are some upcoming changes to the existing site to better explain what we’re up to.

    The discovery service was awesome, but it was something that wound up distracting us from the product we really wanted to build. Additionally it wasn’t delivering long term value to our customers nor on the promise of simple social marketing.

    More updates to follow soon!

  • Jeff

    I have read about the interesting service(s) you will not provide ! What will you be to help marketers acquire or better communicate with leads?

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    Hi Jeff, not sure I understand the question? We’re gonna help small businesses use social media as a marketing channel.

  • http://twitter.com/camplejohn Doug Camplejohn

    Shameless plug for Fliptop – http://www.fliptop.com

    We offer social profile lookups, with direct integration into Constant Contact, MailChimp, ExactTarget, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube (as well as CSV and web form import).

    We charge the same nickel per contact lookup with discounts for volume, and also provide social media and email analytics for an additional monthly fee (optional).

    We are just coming out of private Beta, and I have been in contact with Ethan to see if there’s some kind of transition path we can offer for Flowtown customers still looking for social profile lookup.

    If you sign up on our website, and fill out the survey form on the confirmation page and mention you are a Flowtown customer, we will put you in the next wave of Beta invites that are going out.

    The folks at Flowtown are incredibly creative, and I’m sure what they come out with will be valuable, so I see customers getting value out of both applications going forward.

    Thanks,
    Doug Camplejohn
    CEO and Founder
    Fliptop
    doug@fliptop.com
    415.671.4710 x706

  • Jaimee

    That’s a shame… all of the reasons I started using you guys for are evidently going away. Bummer.

  • Lisa

    With all due respect, how can you say with confidence that the discovery service wasn’t delivering long term value to your customers when you’ve only been in existence for 2 years?

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    Hi Lisa,

    I’m curious were you a past customer of ours? PAYG or Monthly Subscription?

    The thing is you actually don’t need that much data to figure out that your product isn’t deliver long-term value. In our case, our key metrics were retention i.e. how long do customers stick around (churn rate) and satisfaction i.e. how disappointed would they be if they could not longer use Flowtown.

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    Hi Jaimee,

    I hear ya, definitely a big change. Thanks so much for supporting us thus far! I hope we get a chance to help you again with your social marketing initiatives in the future.

  • Efiltered

    What else do you do?

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    We’ve got several of new tools/announcements on the way. Some of which are already in Beta. if you want to participate send an email to beta (at) flowtown.com and let us know.

  • http://twitter.com/TheRealSJR Stewart Rogers

    Gotta say it – this pretty much sucks. I tested Flowtown out for this very reason and have – just now – managed to get buy in from the company executives to set up a corporate account, and now you’re taking that functionality away.

    Is there a legal reason you’re having to remove this? I can’t think of any good reason why you’d remove your biggest USP otherwise…

  • http://twitter.com/TheRealSJR Stewart Rogers

    PeekYou requires each email address to be entered manually, and usually only gives a link to a US-only website that doesn’t offer the same information.

    Any better suggestions?

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    Hi Stewart,

    We realized that the function of turning email’s to social profiles wasn’t getting us to where we wanted to go as a company in addition to our belief that over the long term it will be unsustainable.

    You might also want to see:
    http://www.formspring.me/ebloch/q/1782594231
    http://www.formspring.me/ebloch/q/1661605554

    Really sorry that your not just getting buy-in :(

    I would checkout: FlipTop.com or PeekYou.com

  • http://ethanbloch.com ethan

    Check out Fliptop.com – I just had coffee with Doug today and they’re doing some really cool things.

  • http://twitter.com/TheRealSJR Stewart Rogers

    Thanks for the reply Ethan.

    I’ve requested beta access to FlipTop, which looks a much better candidate than PeekYou for the functionality you’re removing.

    I’ll keep up-to-date with what you deliver in January in case Flowtown is still of use.

    Many thanks…

  • Anonymous

    We’re an SMB non-profit association helping SMB’s (in UK we call then SMEs) the cleantech space. If there is value you are providing, I would be happy to signpost you (in other words, I’m talking affiliate). I understand what you do NOT offer now. Am less clear on what you do offer, how we can use it and benefits for our community. Enlighten me, please?

  • http://twitter.com/Darcy_Palmer Darcy Palmer

    so will you make the software open source or are you willing to sell it ?

  • http://themaria.me/ themaria

    Laura / Stewart: check Nimble out (disclosure: I work there) — we are in private beta, but we may be able to help. We allow you to aggregate all social and email streams and messages and tie them to a single unified contact record. Also, we help you discover and connect with people from the larger twitterverse & other networks.

  • bruce lau

    very well

  • http://stephenwayne.com Stephen Wayne

     Sad.

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